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Is the Catholic Church still a missionary Church?

One of Archbishop Vigano’s most pointed criticisms in his condemnation of Vatican II (see previous post) was about ecumenism. The liberal-left and dissident factions of the Council hammered the (alleged) need for the Church to become more ‘ecumenical and pastoral’ in its orientation. In his criticism, the archbishop focused on one of the most controversial sentences in all of the Council documents: ‘Ecclesia Christi subsistit in Ecclesia Catholica‘ – the Church of Christ subsists in the Catholic Church.

I have been rather cavalier in presenting my view on this sentence. I understood it to mean (uncontroversially, I thought) that ‘the Church of Christ’ referred to the Church in its pristine purity (the substance) and the Catholic Church to include the fallibility of the human person (the accidents). And if elements of the pristine Church were to be found in other churches, then they were at a stage on the way to the one true Church. Missionary work was required to bring those with a deficient understanding to the full faith.

For example, Dr Taylor Marshall (see previous posts) started out as a fervent baptist. Reflection on his faith brought him to the Episcopal Church in which he became an episcopal priest. The journey of faith continued until he saw the full faith in the Catholic Church. He is now in full missionary mode as a philosopher and theologian. I strongly recommend his youtube videos.

Archbishop Vigano points out how the Second Vatican Council’s documents on ecumenism led to the opposite of this process of conversion. Indeed, conversion was now deemed no longer necessary. One of the (German) bishops at the recent Amazonia Synod was heard to boast that he had not converted anyone in fifty years. Archbishop Vigano:

Together with numerous Council Fathers, we thought of ecumenism as a process, an invitation that calls dissidents to the one Church of Christ, idolaters and pagans to the one True God, and the Jewish people to the promised Messiah. But from the moment it was theorized in the conciliar commissions, ecumenism was configured in a way that was in direct opposition to the doctrine previously expressed by the Magisterium…

Numerous practicing Catholics, and perhaps also a majority of Catholic clergy, are today convinced that the Catholic Faith is no longer necessary for eternal salvation; they believe that the One and Triune God revealed to our fathers is the same as the god of Mohammed…

Thus “Ecclesia Christi subsistit in Ecclesia Catholica” does not specify the identity of the two, but the subsistence of one in the other and, for consistency, also in other churches: here is the opening to interconfessional celebrations, ecumenical prayers, and the inevitable end of any need for the Church in the order of salvation, in her unicity, and in her missionary nature.

What does the Gospels say? The Gospel for Trinity Sunday (2 weeks ago) has the crucial passage:

At that time: Jesus said to his disciples: All power is given to Me in heaven and on earth. Going, therefore, teach ye all nations, baptizing them in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost; teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you. And, behold, I am with you all the days, even to the consummation of the world. Matt: 28, 18-20

This is one of those scriptural passages that could hardly be clearer. It renders those promoting an interpretation of ecumenism based on the so-called ‘spirit’ rank heretics.

The Catholic Church is prescriptively a missionary Church.

The Conciliar Series

I have begun a series of novels that has as its background the cultural revolution of the 1960s and 1970s (1965-1975). The Catholic Church’s Second Vatican Council was part of this cultural revolution. The bishops in St Peter’s of Rome (1962-1965) had imbibed from the same cup of radical anti-Catholic, anti-Christian civilization philosophies driving the mob in Paris in 1968.

The location of the stories in the Conciliar Series will mostly be in Holland and Australia. The first book in the series TIMES OF DISTRESS plays out in Holland, Australia, and New Guinea.

The Parallel Church of Vatican II

Michael Matt of Remnant Newspaper comments on Archbishop Vigano’s condemnation of Vatican II

VIGANÒ on REVOLUTION in the CHURCH: “From Vatican II onwards, a parallel church was built…”

Over the past half century of crisis in the Catholic Church, one of the main points of division among Tradition-minded Catholics centered around the question of whether there was something inherently contrary to Tradition about the Second Vatican Council itself, or was it merely the Modernist interpretations of the Council that flowed abundantly into the lifeblood of the Church after the close of the Council in 1965.

Over the past few decades, many conservative commentators were ready to admit that the so-called “Spirit of the Council” had led to much devastation in the Church. But they parted company with those of us who felt obliged in conscience to point out that at least some of the sixteen documents themselves were inherently at odds with the constant magisterial teaching of the Church.

In essence, this has been at the heart of the debate for over fifty years.  It divided my own family, in fact, and eventually left my father with no choice but to leave The Wanderer and found The Remnant in 1967.  In his mind, it was not merely a question of abuse—either of doctrine or liturgy—but rather that Vatican II represented a fundamental and orchestrated reorientation of the Church in the spirit of the modern world.

For many good Catholics (who knew something had gone terribly wrong), it seemed the more prudent course of action to hope and pray that faulty interpretations of the Council would eventually work themselves into a hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition and all would end well. For fifty years, this kept them largely silent in the face of radical novelty never before seen in the history of the Church.

Read the rest here…

Vatican II and the Roots of deviation

Dr Maike Hickson Life Site News comments on Archbishop Vigano’s condemnation of the Second Vatican Council

Abp Viganò on the ‘roots of deviation’ of Vatican II and how Francis was chosen to revolutionize the Church

by Dr Maike Hickson

In a historic text, Archbishop Viganò agrees with Bishop Athanasius Schneider in his criticism of the Second Vatican Council.Wed Jun 10, 2020

June 10, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) – The prominent Catholic prelate and speaker of truth, Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, is casting off many of the false teachings that have crept into the Church during and since the Second Vatican Council. With this act of liberation, he sets the Church on a new path, cleared of falsehood and with the full Catholic truth in sight.

In his new statement, Archbishop Vigano clearly distances himself from the controversial Abu Dhabi statement. He says: “we know well that the purpose of these ecumenical and interreligious initiatives is not to convert those who are far from the one Church to Christ, but to divert and corrupt those who still hold the Catholic Faith, leading them to believe that it is desirable to have a great universal religion that brings together the three great Abrahamic religions ‘in a single house’: this is the triumph of the Masonic plan in preparation for the kingdom of the Antichrist!”

Archbishop Viganò deals with the Abu Dhabi Declaration as rooted in “deviations” of the Second Vatican Council. He describes how the same people who supported the revolutionary changes of Vatican II helped to get Jorge Bergoglio elected as Pope Francis. At the same time, he describes our situation as “the most serious apostasy to which the highest levels of the Hierarchy are exposed, while the Christian people and the clergy feel hopelessly abandoned and that they are regarded by the bishops almost with annoyance.” Only when facing the errors that started with the Second Vatican Council, the archbishop explains, can we face our current crisis.

Read the rest here…

Archbishop Vigano condemns Vatican II

If Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano had not shaken up Church and state enough with his Open Letter to President Trump, highlighting the workings of the the Dark State in Church and (Christian) society, he has sent an explosive condemnation of the Second Vatican Council into the political and religious arena.

What he has done, in my view, is that more than fifty years after the Council he has been forced to admit Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre was right in his criticisms. He has fallen into line with what many Traditional Catholics have claimed all this time. It is a massive breakthrough for the Resistance to the ongoing attempts within to destroy the One True and Apostolic Church of Jesus Christ. Here is the text of the archbishop’s essay as it appeared on Life Site News:

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“From Vatican II onwards, a parallel church was built…”

VIGANÒ on REVOLUTION in the CHURCH:

by  + Carlo Maria Viganò

I read with great interest the essay of His Excellency Athanasius Schneider published on LifeSiteNews on June 1, subsequently translated into Italian by Chiesa e post concilio, entitled There is no divine positive will or natural right to the diversity of religions. His Excellency’s study summarizes, with the clarity that distinguishes the words of those who speak according to Christ, the objections against the presumed legitimacy of the exercise of religious freedom that the Second Vatican Council theorized, contradicting the testimony of Sacred Scripture and the voice of Tradition, as well as the Catholic Magisterium which is the faithful guardian of both.

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Meaning of Trump’s tweet to Archbishop Vigano

Donald Trump tweeted a reply to Archbishop Vigano’s open letter to him. It was praise and acknowledgment of the Archbishop and the content of the letter. The tweet:

Dr Taylor Marshall follows his post explicating Archbishop Vigano’s Open Letter with what he considers Trump’s tweet means. He makes six points and explains the reason for them. Again, he highlights the significance of  the Latin phrase: Solve et Coagula. I cannot stress enough the importance of Marshall’s three videos on Archbishop Vigano’s Open Letter to President Trump. The third is to come.

Go to: Left-leaning Catholics furious over Trump tweeting Archbishop Viganò’s letter

Vatican II’s (lost) condemnations of communism

In 2018, LifeSiteNews, a leading Catholic website, published a translation of the drafts prepared for the Second Vatican Council on Communism and Marxism. The drafts were a resounding condemnation of the malignancy of a theory and movement that has laid waste nations and poisoned societies.

The manoeuvring of the notorious leftist ‘Rhine Group’ of Germany, France, Holland and Belgium succeeded in having the drafts sent to the archives to gather dust. The last thing they wanted was series of drafts that would undermine their leftist agenda for Vatican II. One of the leaders (if not the leader) of the Rhine Group was the subversive Fr Edward Schillebeeckx whose voluminous scribbling continues to flow like a stinking green ooze through Catholic orders, colleges, and seminaries around the world, infecting all it comes into contact with. See the links below:

Vatican II’s (lost) condemnations of communism (LifeSite article)

THE LOST CONDEMNATIONS OF COMMUNISM OF VATICAN II